Page Title: Confederate and Southern Flags
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| West Point Foundry in Cold Spring, NY Production Site of Union's Parrot gun; I got to take a rare tour of the ruins. This was the Manhattan Project of its day and produced much of The Union's ordinance |
Hey You Southern Guys: Before we get to the flags thanks for all the help you gave us in figuring out what medal old Lilburn here is wearing. He's my wife's great great Granddaddy, Lilburn B. Miller, who served in the 10th Alabama Infantry in General Lee's Army of Northern Virginia.
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| We know quite a bit about his life and military service. We took an entire Alabama vacation a few years ago. In fact, we spent about three whole days in the wonderful local history collection in the Anniston Public Library and in other historical depositories around Oxford. We found all kinds of records on him. We found his POW parole document, documents that described his two woundings (one was at The Crater in Petersburgh). We even found documents about a lawsuit he was involved in. Seems he bought an ox from a guy to which it later turned out the seller did not have title! Can you imagine? A guy sells you an ox that he does not even own. Who even knew that you needed a title for an ox? I suppose back then, oxen were like pick up trucks. So anyway, Lilburn was suing this guy for years. We could not determine how it turned out however. I also wonder if Lilburn was suing the seller because the real owner took the ox back from Lilburn. Dang, talk about having a bad day. Anyway, we wanted love to know about the medal he is wearing. Was it a medal commemorating membership in a veterans organization or the attendance at some veterans event? I suspected it was. but was it a medal awarded by the Confederate government. It is often said that the Confederate government did not award medals. However, I have seen writings that refute that idea. Anyway, a lot of you guys know a great deal more about the recent unpleasantness than we do. So I asked you to send us what information you had on this medal. Lots of you sent us all kinds of cool information. Also, one more thing. Lilburn had three wives and 18 children! If you do the math, that fact means he has hundreds and hundreds of descendants. We did a good part of the family tree down there. That library has an amazing genealogy section and they treated us like family during our visit. We found out that a lot of them Millers went to Texas. We also know, that Lilburn is a Bagley on his mother's side. So I always say, one thing is for certain, Lilburn was a Bagley. He survived the war and became a prominent businessman who died at an old age in his general store. We visited his grave in Oxford and I'll post a picture of it here soon. Maybe I'll even start posting the family tree. We thank all our neighbors in our great sister state of Alabama for a wonderful couple of weeks. Al Cavalari, Prop |
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We've Done It Again
#H96 $59 The Rock City Guards 27"x5' Nylon with heading and grommets
A Nashville militia battalion which became part of the 1st Regiment of Tennessee Volunteers.
27"x5'. This unusual commercial size evokes the long narrow scale of the original 3x7'
The Rock City Guards, a Nashville militia battalion became part of the 1st Regiment of Tennessee Volunteers. According to the 11/26/05 posting on Mr. Cannon's web site Vexillarium, "The flag was made in April 1861, after Virginia joined the Confederacy as its 8th state, but before Tennessee formally seceded. Tennessee is represented at the 9th star outside the circle, representing that we weren't in the fold yet, but were on the way. The original flag measures about 3 feet wide and almost 7 feet long, and is in the Tennessee State Museum."
The story of these flags is a story of country and of family. They are symbols of the horrible divide confronting all Americans during The War Between The States. They are symbols of a time when fathers fought sons and brothers fought brothers. They tell the story of where we get the beloved term...Old Glory Click here to see the full story of this pair of father and son flags.
Click here to see the full article by Devereaux D Cannon
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Nathan Bedford Forrest's Flag 3x5' Polyester, dyed design, heading and grommets #H93 $29.00 |
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The Magnolia Flag #H92 $59 3x5' Real Thick Cotton, appliqued NOT, silkscreened design, with heading and grommets Also available in a printed polyester: #H92P $23.00 |
The Magnolia Flag: The flag of out great sister state of Mississippi until 1894. The star derives from the independence movement that created the "Republic of West Florida" in 1810. That lone star was to reappear in the Bonnie Blue Flag during the War Between The States and remains in the flag of our great sister state of Texas today. The Magnolia Tree is a symbol of Mississippi much as the Palmetto Tree is for South Carolina. The Magnolia flower is on Mississippi's state quarter.
This is a detail of the fully sewn cotton applique design with the thick stitched border details. Some versions of this flag omit the red border on the fly end. Some call this flag the Flag of the Republic of Mississippi because it was adopted by that state after it seceded from the United States on January 9, 1861 and before it joined the Confederate States of America on March 27, 1861 |
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Hood's Brigade #H121 $23.75 3x5' Polyester with heading and grommets |
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General Taylor's Battle Flag Distinctive reverse color placement from the more common battle flags 4x4' Silk Like Polyester with heading and grommets #H90 $29.00 Dyed design |
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Georgia State Flag Ca 1920-1956. Design influenced by the 1st National Confederate flag. In early 1920's the state seal began appearing on the flag. There is no record of who ordered it. #GA19 $59 3x5' Nylon with heading and grommets. Dyed seal, sewn stripes |
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Van Dorn's Flag From the Trans Mississippi Department #H89 3x5' $49.50 Dyed nylon flag with heading and grommets As with many flags of that era, this one appeared in different versions due to lack of official specifications and the vagaries of war time production. This version was used by the 40th Mississippi. Other versions had a white border or slightly different star patterns. |
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CSS Virginia (Known in some circles as The Merrimack)#H81 |
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Polk's Corps Army Of Tennessee Major General Leonidas Polk was the Episcopal Bishop of Louisiana. His flag was a variation on the more common battle flags with their blue diagonal crosses. It contained as its central device the red Cross of St George, England's national emblem. #H37 $39.50 3x5'Nylon with heading and grommets Sewn stars and stripes!
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Polk's Corps Army Of Tennessee
#H37P $23.00 3x5' Polyester with heading and grommets Dyed stars and stripes!
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All the flags below have heading and grommets for outdoor use |
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Choctaw Braves Flag #H82 $39 3x5' Nylon Fully Sewn (Appliqued) |
CSA Seal Flag #H83 $22.50 3x5' Polyester Dyed |
Georgia Flag up to 1879 #H84 $19.50 3x5' Polyester Dyed |
 First Irish Volunteers #H123 $23 3x5' Polyester Dyed (1st Irish volunteers) |
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Louisiana Republic Flag #H85 $22.50 3x5' Polyester,Dyed |
South Carolina Sovereignty Flag #H86 $22.50 3x5' Polyester Dyed |
North Carolina Battle Flag #H87 $22.50 3x5' Polyester , Dyed |
 Terry's Texas Rangers Flag #H112 $24.00 3x5' Polyester Dyed #H112C $39 3x5' SEWN and embroidered DOUBLE SIDED, HEAVY COTTON
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 5TH Kentucky Stars and Bars #H138 $22.00 3x5' Polyester Dyed
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Texas Navy Flag of 1836 and Florida Secession Flag hoisted when Florida forces seized federal forts at Pensacola during the recent unpleasantness. Yep they're the same design. #H111 $23.75 |
 Kentucky Orphan Brigade Flag #H113 $24.50 3x5'Dyed Polyester
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 North Carolina Republic #H137 $24.00 3x5' Dyed Polyester |
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 The Missouri Battle Flag From the Trans Mississippi Department #H57 $39.00 3x5' Sewn nylon with heading and grommets |
Overstock Deal!! Polyester 3x5' With Heading and Grommets
Georgia flag shown above in a 12x18" nylon with heading & grommets: #GA12 $1.99 Suitable for framing. |
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Georgia State Flag 1956-2,001 12x18" Stick flags on a 24" stick; This is a closeout lot #SPHGA12 $4.00 EACH $18 Per dozen $1 each for the entire lot; As of 3/1/07 we have only about 88 left in the lot stock |
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 Magnolia Rangers, 1st Texas Cavalry instituted Jan 17, 1861 in Galveston Texas 3x5' Heavy Cotton, #H117 $39 (also available in printed polyester: #H117P $24.00) This is a fully sewn and embroidered flag! The cotton is so thick in this flag it is like what they make jeans out of!
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Georgia State Flag
1956-2,001
#GA3P $3.99
Embroidered
letters read correct on BOTH sides
CONFEDERATE AND OTHER SOUTHERN FLAGS
A word about flag termsThe Confederate States of America had many flags. Among those were their three national flags. Just as our own Old Glory, the flag of the United States of America, went through many evolutionary versions to reach the pattern we know today, so did the national flags of the CSA. In order, these were:
The 1st National Flag (The Stars & Bars), changed after it was considered too close in design to the US flag, especially when furled.
The 2nd National Flag (The Stainless Banner), changed when it was realized it looked too much like a white surrender flag when furled
The 3rd National Flag, the most recent and final flag of the CSA.
When folks ask us for "the Confederate flag", they usually mean the most commonly seen C.S.A. Navy Jack shown below. This flag is often loosely called "The Battle Flag", "The Confederate Battle Flag", and even "The Stars & Bars."
"The Battle Flag", is by rights square.
"The "Stars & Bars" is by rights the First National Flag
So when you ask us for "The Confederate Flag", or "The Battle Flag" or "The Stars & Bars", please bear with us when we ask a few questions to find out exactly which one you want. Our brief questions have prevented loads of folks from ordering a flag they did not want
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Sons of Erin 10th Tennessee Infantry Dyed polyester flag with heading & grommets#H55 3x5' $29.50 Inscription reads: "Sons Of Erin" " Go Where Glory Waits You "You've heard of The Irish Brigade from The North. These southern Irish troops formed at Ft. Henry in 1861. Their first serious engagement came on February 13, 1862 in the defense of Ft. Donelson Their efforts were in vain for the regiment was surrendered with more than 8,000 troops when the fort fell. However, the regiment was exchanged and reorganized in late 1862. It then saw action in the siege of Jackson, TN, Battle of Chickamauga, siege of Chattanooga, and the Atlanta Campaign. In November of 1864 it formed part of The Army of Tennessee when General John Bell Hood made his ill fated campaign against Federals at Franklin and Nashville. Thereafter, survivors of the regiment were consolidated into other regiments. Included in Johnson's troops who laid down their arms to Sherman in North Carolina in April 26, 1865 was a skeletal force of Irishmen from the 10th Tennessee. The original flag is in the Nashville Museum. |
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Hardee's Corp #H50 $39.50 30x40" Dyed Nylon flag with heading & grommetsAgain, as a result of your requests, we're pleased to offer a "white moon" version of this unique & storied flag. Some Southern units devised their own flags to prevent confusion caused by red, white & blue flags widely used on both sides. General William Hardee's regiments used various versions of this blue flag with a central disk whose shape was sometimes oval or even square like with rounded corners. Sizes also varied but this is a typical size. General Patrick Cleburne's division marched into history under such flags at the horrific battle of Franklin, Tennessee |
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Robert E. Lee's Headquarters Flag :Three different fabrics |
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Cherokee Braves #H41 $39.50 3x5' Dyed nylon with heading and grommets1861: the Confederate States of America sign defense treaties with The Cherokee, Chickasaw, Choctaw, Creek and Seminole. This flag is given to Cherokee chief John Ross upon the signing. Thousands from these tribes serve in the Confederate army. In fact the last Confederate general to surrender is Cherokee Stand Waite, recently featured on a USA postage stamp. The five red stars within the circle of stars represent the 5 nations mentioned above. |
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"The Bonnie Blue Flag" see prices below |
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USA/Big Red lapel pin #PINBR $2.00 : We only have a couple dozen of these available. They have a metal military clutch pin back |
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12x18" #1N12C $16 2x3' #1N2C $39 Cotton flags are not suitable for flying in the rain. Use for display or parade use only 1st National CSA Flag "The Stars & Bars" other sizes see prices below |
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1st National 11 Star #H59 $23.50 3x5' Dyed Polyester with heading and grommets
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1st National 13 Star #H60 $24.50 3x5' Dyed Polyester with heading and grommets
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2nd National CSA Flag "The Stainless Banner" see prices below |
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3rd National CSA Flag see prices below |
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Five Flag Confederate Desk Set: 4x6" flags with stand. Includes 1st National, 2nd National, 3rd National, Battle Flag, CSA Naval Jack #UNIS4 $15.00 each $11.50 each for 6 sets; $10.00 each for 12 sets |
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Individual 4x6" Flags |
The desk flags from the above set are available individually and in bulk quantities: $4.25 each: $2.55 each for 12 of a kind: $1.60 each for 12 dozen. The dozen pricing is for a dozen of the same flag. The twelve dozen quantity may be mixed in even dozens. |
Heavy
cotton First National Stars and Bars; Real
thick cotton jobs with sewn stripes and embroidered stars! Suitable for
framing.
FLAG PRICES
Quantity Pricing Deal:
$94 for your choice of three 3 x 5' Nylon Flags From This Group:
1st National
2nd National
3rd National
CSA Navy Jack
Bonnie Blue
Better Yet,
Take all five for $136; You save $73.00!!!
Keep in mind that these are rugged nylon flags.
All flags come with heading & grommets. Our flags are also acid dyed which results in banners that are more beautiful and rugged than those made with ink printing. For ruggedness and colorfastness outdoors our nylon flags are your best choice.
The Table Shows Individual Flag Prices of the flags above
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3 x 5' Dyed designs unless stated otherwise. All have heading and grommets Lightweight Jobbies |
Style "N" |
Style "C" |
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1st National #1STNAT |
44.00 |
$79.00 |
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2nd National #2NDNAT |
42.00 |
$79.00 |
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3rd National #3NDNAT |
43.00 |
$79.00 |
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Bonnie Blue #BONBLU |
41.00 |
49.00 |
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Palmetto Guard Flag #PAL |
39.00 |
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SC Secession Flag #H32N |
39.50 |
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SC Secession Flag #H32P $23.00 Polyester |
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"Big Red" The Citadel Battle Flag SEWN design #H31N |
39.00 sewn |
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Battle Flag (Square w/ white border) |
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Nylon Acid Dyed Silkscreened Finished with heading and grommets |
Cotton Fully Sewn Stars and Stripes Finished with sleeve and leather tab for hanging on a pole |
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Calvary 32 x 32 " |
$42.00 #BATCN |
$79.00 #CS13 |
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Artillery 38x38" |
$54.00 #BATAN |
$99.00 #CS14 |
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Infantry 51x51" |
$79.00 #BATIN |
$119.00 #CS15 |
 This is a shot of the sleeve on our sewn cotton flags. Note the leather tab inside the sleeve for hanging on a pole. The ties are really only for effect. They should not be used to support the flag. But this is still a great value on a heavy sewn flag |
The pictures left and right are of ouw SEWN cotton flag, NOT the acid dyed silkscreened flags |
 This shot shows the nice thick sewing and stitching on the cotton flags. |
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This is the design commonly called "The Confederate Flag." It was indeed a naval flag. But it was also the battle flag for the Army of Northern Virginia |
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4x6" Clip On Antenna Flag Closeout:
#AF5 $3.95 each, $1.50 ea for 12 or more |
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4x6" Stick Flag Cotton flags on 10" staff, with spear tip. CAUTION: Sharp SPEAR tips! Use under adult supervision #CPHCS4 $1.50 each, $17 per dozen, $60 per gross |
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Heavy Nylon with acid dyed design |
Heavy Cotton with dyed design |
Lt. Wt. Polyester, dyed design |
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12 x 18" $11.50 #CSAN12 |
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2 x 3' $23.00 #CSAN2 |
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3 x 5' $39.50 #CSAN3 |
$44.00 #CSAC3 |
$13.50 #CSAP |
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4 x 6' $49.00 #CSAN4 |
55.00 #CSAC4 |
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5 x 8' $82.00 #CSAN5 |
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Cotton flags are not suitable for use in the rain CSA Navy Jack Heavy Thick Cotton Fully Sewn Check this one out! A customer asked me if there was a nice cotton Confederate flag in a 5x9.5' casket size. I told him I would find out. Well, I did find this wonderfully made, fully sewn thick cotton 5x8' flag with heading and grommets. This cotton is so thick if feels like the nice denim they use in Levis jeans. Every star and stripe is richly sewn. This is an absolutely beautiful job. I have been selling flags for 25 years and have never seen a nicer job. #CSAC5S 5x8' $59 Also available in a convenient parade size: #CSAC3S 3x5' $39 |
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Light Weight Dyed Polyester Jobbies
Not as rugged as the nylon flags shown above, but they have real good colors. And hey, for the price, these are great flags that do darn good outdoors.
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Price for one |
Price each if you get any three |
Price each if you get any 12( Sell them yourself ) |
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CSA Navy Jack #CSAP |
$14.00 |
$9.99 |
$6.39 |
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Bonnie Blue #BP |
14.00 |
9.99 |
$6.39 |
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Battle Flag 3x3' #BAT3P |
14.00 |
9.99 |
$6.39 |
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1st National #1P |
14.00 |
9.99 |
$6.39 |
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2nd National #2P |
14.00 |
9.99 |
$6.39 |
| 3rd National #3P | 14.00 | 9.99 | $6.39 |
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You can even mix and match from the flags in this chart to achieve the quantity pricing. These are 3x5' flags except the 3x3' Battle Flag |
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Here are the responses we received from our appeal at the top of this page:
From: JS Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 8:40 AMTo: 'FLAGGUYS@aol.com'Subject: RE: THANK YOU
Dear Sirs, Thank you for your reply back. Your Great-Great Grandfather was wearing the Southern Cross of Honor, which was probably presented to him by the ladies of the United Daughters of the Confederacy (UDC). I believe it was during the 1890's the UDC had this medal made to present to as many Confederate Veterans as possible and the UDC was the ONLY authorized organization to do so using this medal. All of the Southern Cross of Honor's were presented to Confederate Vets only by UDC members and if I'm correct 14,000 medals were made and presented to Confederate Vets. You can find a lot more information about this medal on the web just by typing in "Southern Cross of Honor" in the browser section. Hope this helps. JS
Follow up from same writer:. I was mistaken. It was 1900 when the medal came out, 12,500 was the first order and a total of 78,761 medals were presented to Confederate Vets.
Here's another response that agrees with the first writer:
Flag Guys:
The medal your grandpaw is wearing in the picture on your homepage is a United Daughters of the Confederacy "Southern Cross of Honor."
A textual description of the honor can be found at:
http://www.lib.jmu.edu/special/udccross.html
Hope this helps!
Glad to see my NY brethren unashamed to honor their Southron (sic) forebear!
Hurrah for the Empire State (from the Magnolia State)! -- JH Sons of Confederate Veterans Camp # XXX, MississippiThanks Pal. Thanks for the great picture. And we followed the second link you gave us and found this information:
UNITED DAUGHTERS OF THE CONFEDERACY.SOUTHERN CROSS OF HONOR DOCUMENTS.SC #2060CARRIER LIBRARY, JAMES MADISON UNIVERSITYCompiled by Scott DeNoon, April 1988
1. PLEASE NOTE: Microfilm #1486 must be used instead of the originals. Microfilm is available in Carrier Library's microform area on the second floor.
SCOPE AND CONTENT This collection consists of 1/2 Hollinger box and 1 oversize folder of records and applications for Shenandoah Valley residents who received the Southern Cross of Honor and the Cross of Military Service from the United Daughters of the Confederacy during the years 1905-1941.
The award, which later became the Cross of Military Service, originated on October 13, 1862 as an act of the Confederate Congress to recognize the courage, valor, and good conduct of officers, non-commissioned officers and privates of the Confederate Army. However, due to wartime shortages the medals were unable to be made, but the recipients' names were recorded in an Honor Roll for future reference. The design of the cross used by the UDC was created by Mrs. Alexander S. Erwin in July 1898. It featured a cross with a Confederate battle flag on the face surrounded by a laurel wreath with the inscription "The Southern Cross of Honor." The motto of the Confederate States of America, DEO VINDICE (God Our Vindicator) 1861-1865, and the inscription "From the U.D.C. to the U.C.V." appear on the reverse side. The Southern Cross of Honor and the Cross of Military Service are the two most prestigious honors awarded by the U.D.C.
PROVENANCEThe collection was placed on deposit by contract with the Harrisonburg- Rockingham Historical Society. The crosses were awarded to recipients by the Turner Ashby Chapter No. 162.
BIBLIOGRAPHYUnited Daughters of the Confederacy. "The Southern Cross of Honor: General Information." --Received from the Richmond Office of the UDC.Southern Historical Society. Southern Historical Society Papers. Volume 29, Richmond: Southern Historical Society, 1901.
ORGANIZATIONThe collection was in no obvious order when it arrived at Carrier Library. It was organized into the following series by type of material and arranged alphabetically by name of veteran within each folder.
Box 1 Series I: ApplicationsFolder 1 Southern Cross of Honor Applications, A-FFolder 2 " " " " , G-LFolder 3 " " " " , M-RFolder 4 " " " " , S-ZFolder 5 Cross of Military Service Applications
Flat Box 1 Series II: OversizeFolder 1 Southern Cross of Honor Recipient Records
This guy agrees with the first two guys
<<The medal he is wearing is a membership medal of the United Confederate Veterans (UCV). It is based on the Southern Cross of Honor and veterans who were members of a UCV camp wore them. A reunion medal would have a cloth ribbon on it.<<
But is seems as though this e mail from our friend "Crutch" Williams at Crutchfield's Currency explains it best:
** Southern Cross of Honor
Information taken from Confederate Currency & Stamps by Claud E. Fuller, 1949.
He is considered, still today, the expert on Civil War weapons and specifically
the Southern weapons. He was a Yankee that was adopted by the United Daughters
of the Confederacy, Tennessee Division. He had a section in his book that gives
a more complete history on The Southern Cross of Honor. It was at a chapter
meeting, Athens (Georgia) UDC later summer 1898 that Mrs. Mary Cobb Erwin
presented a resolution to present a belated and much deserved medal to the
soldiers and sailors of the South. There are a lot of "Whereas" and "Resolved"
in the document. This resolution was presented to the Georgia body and approved
October, 1898 and then to the main body UDC for final adoption November, 1899.
Your site, or the site you reference, gives conflicting information. You have
"The design of the cross used by the UDC was created by Mrs. Alexander S. Erwin
in July 1898." According to Fuller, leading historian of things Confederate and
also of the UDC, he says, "The cross was designed by Mrs. S. E. Gabbett, of
Atlanta, Georgia". I would believe that Fuller is correct that GABBETT designed
the cross and Mrs. Alexander S. Erwin, listed by her familiar name Mary Cobb
Erwin, was the one that put forth the resolution in local chapter. Mrs. Erwin
was probably the President of that local chapter. I'm sure a more through search
of records would give you all the names involved from the Athens UDC chapter, to
the Georgia State UDC and finally the national UDC.
"The first presentation to Confederate veterans took place on the Confederate
Memorial Day, April 26, 1900, and has since been known as the Southern Cross of
Honor." Description: "Bronze cross pattee, bearing in the center a laurel wreath
encircling the inscription in four lines, DEO VINDICE 1861 1865. The four arms
of the cross inscribed SOUTHERN CROSS OF HONOR. Reverse, In the center a similar
wreath encircling the Confederate battle flag, the four arms of the cross
inscribed UNITED DAUGHTERS CONFEDERACY TO THE U.C.V. Suspended from a plain bar,
on which the name of the recipient may be engraved."
"About twenty-five hundred crosses were distributed at that time, and since then
it has been bestowed upon many thousands of Confederate veterans, and it is
still being given to such as are entitled to receive it. In spite of the immense
number of crosses that have been distributed, it is almost impossible to obtain
a specimen so highly are they valued by those who possess them."
This information was written in 1949. The last U.C.V. meeting was 1952. There
were only, I believe, five (5) veterans surviving at that time. One, George
Washington Williams, the last to pass, was a cousin of my Grandfather William
Richard Williams. I believe there have been some posthumous presentations in the
last few years as well.
I passed on your site to a group I belong to recently. One was talking about
some flags he purchased off eBay and I told them to check out all your flags.
Talk to you later and
Best Regards
Crutch Williams
Life Member SCV
Crutchfield's Currency
http://www.CrutchWilliams.com
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